Monday, 20 October 2014

AGENSI Intel JERMAN berkata MH17 DIJATUHKAN Oleh MILITIA Ukraine - laporan



tiaraVillaRuby Agensi perisikan BND asing Jerman mengatakan militia tempatan menembak jatuh pesawat Malaysia Airlines MH17 di timur Ukraine pd bulan Julai, Der Spiegel melaporkan. BND dikatakan memiliki "bukti yang mencukupi," walapun tidak ada itu telah diumumkan kepada orang ramai.

Kenyataan itu dibuat pada 8 Oktober, apabila Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND) presiden Gerhard Schindler telah mengadakan pertemuan rahsia dengan ahli-ahli jawatankuasa kawalan parlimen, harian Jerman melaporkan 'reported' pada hari Ahad.

Beliau mendakwa militia menembak roket dari sistem peluru berpandu pertaha-nan BUK mana ia telah menangkap daripada asas Ukraine. Kemudian meletup sebelah pesawat, menurut laporan tersebut.

"Schindler memberikan bukti yang cukup untuk menyokong kesnya, termasuk imej satelit dan pelbagai bukti foto," tambah laporan itu.

Walau bagaimanapun, tidak ada "bukti" yang masih lagi belum diumumkan, dan BND tidak membuat sebarang kenyataan rasmi berhubung perkara itu.

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Pada mesyuarat yang sama, Schindler dilaporkan berkata bahawa kecerdasan ter-tentu pada kemalangan yang disediakan oleh pihak Ukraine adalah palsu, sam-bil menambah bahawa "ini dpt dijelaskan secara terperinci." Bagaimanapun, ia tidak memberi banyak kredit sama ada kepada bukti Rusia.

Pejabat Pendakwa Persekutuan Jerman memberitahu akhbar itu bahawa siasatan telah dilancarkan ke pelaku tidak diketahui di bawah kemungkinan bahwa jatuh-nya itu ialah suatu jenayah perang.

GERMANY’s  Intel Agency Says MH17 DOWNED  
by Ukraine Militia - report

Germany's BND foreign intelligence agency says a local militia shot down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 in eastern Ukraine in July, Der Spiegel reports. The BND is said to possess “ample evidence," though none of it has been made public.

The statement was made on October 8, when Bundesnachrichtendienst (BND) president Gerhard Schindler was holding a secret meeting with members of the parliamentary control committee, the German daily reported on Sunday.

He claimed the militia fired a rocket from a BUK defense missile system which it had captured from a Ukrainian base. It then exploded next to the plane, according to the report. 

“Schindler provided ample evidence to back up his case, including satellite images and diverse photo evidence,” the report added. 

However, no “evidence” has yet been made public, and the BND has not made any official statements on the matter.


At the same meeting, Schindler reportedly said that certain intelligence on the crash provided by the Ukrainian side was false, adding that “this can be explained in detail.” However, he did not give much credit to Russia’s evidence either. 

The German Federal Prosecutor's Office told the newspaper that an investigation has been launched into unknown perpetrators under the possibility that the downing had been a war crime.

Presiden Agensi Perisikan Persekutuan Jerman (BND) Gerhard Schindler (President of the German Federal Intelligence Agency (BND) Gerhard Schindler (Reuters/Michaela Rehle)

Pertama Timbalan Perdana Menteri Republik Rakyat Donetsk itu, Andrey Purgin, menafikan dakwaan yg dibuat oleh agensi perisikan Jerman. Katanya kpd Interfax bahawa pasukan Kiev boleh jatuh kapal terbang, salah untuk jet mata-mata.

Penerbangan Malaysia Airlines MH17 sedang menuju dari Amsterdam ke Kuala Lumpur apabila ia jatuh di timur Ukraine pada 17 Julai, membunuh semua 298 penumpang & anak kapal. Hampir 2/3 daripada penumpang adalah dari Belanda.

Probe antarabangsa yang sedang berlangsung yang diketuai oleh Belanda belum lagi ditubuhkan siapa pelakunya. Satu laporan awal yang dikeluarkan pada bulan September berkata hanya bahawa pesawat itu terhempas akibat kerosakan struk-tur disebabkan oleh "sejumlah besar objek bertenaga tinggi" yg melanda dari luar.

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Penganalisis politik Aleksandar Pavic memberitahu RT bahawa dia percaya Berlin sedang cuba utk mempengaruhi siasatan Belanda - keputusan yg akan dikeluarkan tahun depan.

"Jerman kini mempunyai kewajipan untuk menunjukkan bukti2 dgn penyiasatan rasmi," katanya. "Ini seperti semasa perbicaraan: jika anda melepaskan potongan-potongan keterangan di hadapan manakala sidang masih berlangsung, anda cuba untuk mempengaruhi keputusan perbicaraan."

Rusia telah berulang kali menafikan tuduhan, kebanyakannya dari Amerika Sya-rikat, yang mendakwa bahawa Moscow telah berhubung dengan tragedi itu dalam beberapa cara atau lain. Kementerian Luar Rusia telah memanggil tuduhan Was-hington "sindiran-sindiran tidak berasas."

Jabatan Negara Amerika menuduh Rusia menembak meriam di seberang sempadan ke dalam wilayah Ukraine selepas kemalangan pesawat.

"Kita mempunyai bukti baru bahawa Rusia berhasrat untuk menyampaikan pelan-car roket yang lebih berat dan lebih kuat kepada kuasa-kuasa pemisah di Ukraine, dan mempunyai bukti bahawa Rusia adalah menembak meriam dari dalam Rusia utk menyerang kedudukan tentera Ukraine," kata jurucakap Jabatan Negara Marie Harf kepada pemberita semasa taklimat pd bulan Julai. Tetapi dia menolak untuk memberikan apa2 keterangan jika dipanggang oleh wartawan Associated Press.

Sementara itu, Moscow tlh menimbulkan beberapa soalan utk Amerika Syarikat yang telah terjawab. Pegawai tentera Rusia menggesa rakan2 mereka di Amerika Syarikat untuk mengeluarkan imej satelit yg membuktikan tuntutan mereka.

First deputy prime minister of the Donetsk People’s Republic, Andrey Purgin, refuted claims made by the German intelligence agency. He told Interfax that Kiev forces could have downed the plane, mistaking it for a spy jet. 

Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was heading from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it was downed over eastern Ukraine on July 17, killing all 298 passengers and crew. Nearly two-thirds of the passengers were from the Netherlands. 

The ongoing international probe led by the Dutch has not yet established who the perpetrators were. A preliminary report issued in September said only that the plane crashed as a result of structural damage caused by a “large number of high-energy objects" that struck from outside.


Political analyst Aleksandar Pavic told RT that he believes Berlin is trying to influence the Dutch investigation – the results of which are to be released next year.

“Germany has now the obligation to show the evidence to the official inves-tigation,” he said. “This is like during trial: if you release bits and pieces of evidence before while the trial is still ongoing, you are trying to influence the outcome of the trial.” 

Russia has been repeatedly denied accusations, mostly from the US, which claim that Moscow was connected to the tragedy in some way or another. 


The Russian Foreign Ministry has called Washington’s accusations “unsubstantiated innuendos." 

The US State Department has accused Russia of firing artillery across the border into Ukrainian territory after the plane crash. 

“We have new evidence that the Russians intend to deliver heavier and more powerful rocket launchers to the separatist forces in Ukraine, and have evidence that Russia is firing artillery from within Russia to attack Ukrainian military positions,” State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf told reporters during a briefing in July. But she refused to provide any evidence when grilled by an Associated Press reporter. 

Meanwhile, Moscow has posed a series of questions to the US that have been left unanswered. Russian military officials urged their US colleagues to release satellite images that prove their claims.

Ahli-ahli pasukan kerja pemulihan di tapak di mana dijatuhkan Malaysia Airlines penerbangan MH17 jatuh, berhampiran perkampungan Hrabove (Grabovo) di rantau Donetsk, Ukraine timur, 13 Oktober 2014 (Members of the recovery team work at the site where the downed Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crashed, near the village of Hrabove (Grabovo) in Donetsk region, eastern Ukraine, October 13, 2014  (Reuters/Shamil Zhumatov)

"Jika rakan2 Amerika kita mempunyai imej dari satelit ini, mereka harus mele-paskannya untuk masyarakat antarabangsa untuk memeriksanya secara terperinci. Ini mungkin satu kebetulan, tetapi satelit Amerika Syarikat terbang di atas Ukraine tepat pada masa yang sama apabila pesawat Malaysia jatuh," seorang jurucakap kementerian itu dalam satu kenyataan Julai.

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Amerika Syarikat telah menuduh pasukan militia tempatan menembak jatuh pesa-wat. Walau bagaimanapun, ia telah memberikan sedikit atau tidak ada bukti bagi menyokong tuntutan tersebut.

Berikutan kemalangan itu, Harf diminta pada taklimat akhbar MH17 jika boleh menyandarkan tuntutannya mengenai peranan militia itu dalam tragedi itu. Harf menjawab bahawa dia "tidak boleh masuk ke dalam sumber2 dan kaedah di bela-kangnya" & "tidak boleh memberitahu anda apa maklumat yg pd didasarkan."

Pada akhir Julai, Jabatan Negara Amerika Syarikat yang dikeluarkan imej satelit melalui e-mel, dengan mendakwa gambar-gambar yang bertindak sebagai "bukti" bahawa Rusia tlh menembak roket tentera Ukraine di seberang sempadan. Gam-bar-gambar yg diberikan di Twitter oleh Duta Besar Amerika Syarikat ke Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt. Kementerian Pertahanan Rusia mengatakan adalah mustahil untuk membuktikan kesahihan gambar.

Sementara itu, Rusia telah berkata bahawa tenteranya mengesan Ukraine SU-25 jet pejuang semakin tinggi ke arah MH17 Boeing pada hari malapetaka. Penjelasan diberikan oleh Kiev mengapa pesawat tentera terbang begitu dekat dgn pesawat penumpang.

"If our US colleagues have imagery from this satellite, they should release it for the international community to examine it in detail. This may be a coincidence, but the US satellite flew over Ukraine at exactly the same time when the Malaysian airliner crashed,” a ministry spokesman said in a July statement.


The US has accused local militia forces of shooting down the plane. However, it has provided little to no evidence in support of such claims. 

Following the crash, Harf was asked at a press briefing if the US could back up its claims regarding the role of such militias in the tragedy. Harf responded that she “can’t get into the sources and methods behind it” and “can’t tell you what the information is based on.”

In late July, the US State Department released satellite images via email, claiming the pictures acted as “evidence” that Russia was firing rockets at Ukrainian troops across the border. The images were posted on Twitter by the US ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt. Russia’s Defense Ministry said the authenticity of the images was impossible to prove. 

Meanwhile, Russia has said that its military detected a Ukrainian SU-25 fighter jet gaining height towards the MH17 Boeing on the day of the catastrophe. No exp-lanation was given by Kiev as to why the military plane was flying so close to a passenger aircraft.


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